Reece Ellis cleared his throat; Paul continued.
"Separation of Church and State is running okay, I guess. At least, as a matter of principle. And it is also hitched up with We Mean It. We've told them that that's the way it is. We've told them that we're going to make them do it. The N.U.S. has just imposed separation of church and state. That's what Congress ordered. Beyond principle, when we get into practice, things get more complicated. Let me turn this over to Steve Salatto. That part of it is his game."
Steve had a whole report, with appendices for Bamberg and Fulda. "It's harder to manage in practice, when so much of what we think of as civil government was run by the church here, because the ruler was a bishop. Plus, we've been ordered only to confiscate the property that actually belonged to the bishops and abbot as rulers. Not to take the church stuff that was in their names—the buildings where they have the altars and crosses, the stained glass and candles. We've got the bishop's palace, the one he lived in, and are using it for office space. But not the convents and the monasteries and the hospitals and the old folks' homes and the schools and the orphanages . . . We've got taxes coming in from a whole batch of rural real estate, and beyond taxes, the N.U.S. is now the direct holder of a lot of agricultural and residential leases on which it collects the rent, which means that we can pay the Amtmaenner and their staffs. That's a good thing. Paying your employees on time is a thoroughly sound idea, from a public administration perspective. It really cuts down on the temptation to graft."
He paused. "That reminds me. We could use a couple of auditors down this way, when you have them available."
Arnold Bellamy duly made a note.
"Back to what we've been doing. I'm just sitting in the place of the bishop, so to speak, for that kind of thing. I'm the State, and I'm trying to figure out what's properly Church and hand it off officially to this guy called the suffragan. Who's the equivalent of a deputy sheriff for a bishop, the bishop himself having run off to the Habsburgs rather than staying here to do his duty."
Steve frowned. Misbehaving bishops offended his uptime sensibilities. "In some ways, that's lucky. The bishop was a Habsburg crony named Hatzfeld from up around Cologne rather than a local, and hadn't been on the job for long. He was only elected in August of1631 and the pope didn't confirm him until January of 1632. After Alte Veste, he scrammed. People weren't attached to him personally, so to speak. The bishop of Bamberg just died last March and they haven't replaced him yet. He was off in exile with the Habsburgs, too, living in Carinthia. Back in our world, the crony also grabbed that diocese. These guys don't seem to pay a lot of attention to the rules about not holding multiple benefices."
"I hear a `but' in your voice."
"But a lot of them, Amtmaenner whom we're paying and all, don't like the idea of separation of church and state, any more than they like our laws on witches or toleration. And, I think, a fair number of them are just doing a `wait and see' for the time being. They're just biding their time on this too, hoping that old Ferdinand of Austria will work some kind of a military miracle, restore the bishops, and they can go back to the way things used to be."
Arnold pushed his hair back nervously. "That's the thing. That's why I really came down from Grantville. I haven't been able to get any kind of real handle, from anybody's reports, from anywhere in Franconia, on how many people have that attitude and how many think that we're doing at least sort of okay. Not just from you, Steve. I'm not pointing a finger. What I mean is, not from anybody. I'm really surprised that we aren't seeing more popular response. Not just official comments from the city councils and such, but from the ordinary people. It's not that you haven't tried, I know. Press releases. Pamphlets. Broadsides. Handouts in the marketplaces. It's like it's all falling into a pit."
"It's the wrong season," Meyfarth commented cautiously. "You started this commission in the spring. That is planting time; then haying; then harvest. Farmers are starting at dawn and working until it is too dark to see; carters are hauling; farriers are shoeing; harness makers are repairing. By evening, they are too tired to think about all the propaganda that the commission is putting out or to express their opinions about the measures it is taking. Just about the only uptimers they see are your `hearts and minds' men."
"When can we reasonably expect to hear from them, then?" Arnold Bellamy interrupted.
"It has been too many years since they could work without interruptions and raids, confiscations from friend and enemy. Under the N.U.S., the taxes are still high, but at least they are clear about what they will owe and how it is apportioned. The armies, friend and foe alike, are not just `taking' or extorting ransoms on pain of burning the village down. There hasn't been a Brandschatzung anywhere in Franconia since last fall. It may be a good year. In spite of the problems with the weather."