“I find it difficult to see you as bad cop.”
He grinned. “True, it’s a stretch. Curse these boyish good looks!”
We sipped our drinks for a second. He twirled the salt shaker and said, “Can I ask a few more questions?” I nodded. “What’s the next incident you can think of?”
The overpowering smell of the tuna salad on my plate was making my stomach twist. I looked for Kathy to get another beer.
“Fifth grade. Two boys cornered a girl at recess and had her put a stick inside herself.”
“Against her will? They forced her?”
“Mmmm…a little bit I guess. They were bullies, they told her to, and she did.”
“And you saw this or heard about it?”
“They told a few of us to watch. When the teacher found out, we had to apologize.”
“To the girl?”
“No, the girl had to apologize too, to the class. ‘Young ladies must be in control of their bodies because boys are not.’”
“Jesus. You forget sometimes how different things were, and not that many years ago. How just…uninformed.” Richard jotted in his notebook, slid some Jell-O down his throat. “What else do you remember?”
“Once, an eighth-grade girl got drunk at a high-school party and four or five guys on the football team had sex with her, kind of passed her around. Does that count?”
“Camille. Of course it counts. You know that, right?”
“Well, I just didn’t know if that counted as outright violence or…”
“Yeah, I’d count a bunch of punks raping a thirteen-year-old outright violence, yes I sure would.”
“How is everything?” Kathy was suddenly smiling over us.
“You think you could sneak me one more beer?”
“Two.” Richard said.
“All right, this one I do only as a favor to Richard, since he’s the best tipper in town.”
“Thanks, Kathy.” Richard smiled.
I leaned across the table. “I’m not arguing that it’s wrong, Richard; I’m just trying to get your criteria for violence.”
“Right, and I’m getting a good picture of exactly the kind of violence we’re dealing with here, just by the fact that you’re asking me if that counts. Were the police notified?”
“Of course not.”
“I’m surprised she wasn’t made to apologize for allowing them to rape her in the first place. Eighth grade. That makes me sick.” He tried to take my hand again, but I tucked it away in my lap.
“So it’s the age that makes it rape.”
“It’d be rape at any age.”
“If I got a little too drunk tonight, and was out of my head and had sex with four guys, that would be rape?”
“Legally, I don’t know, it’d depend on a lot of things—like your attorney. But ethically, hell yes.”
“You’re sexist.”
“What?”
“You’re sexist. I’m so sick of liberal lefty men practicing sexual discrimination under the guise of protecting women against sexual discrimination.”
“I can assure you I am doing nothing of the sort.”
“I have a guy in my office—sensitive. When I got passed over for a promotion, he suggested I sue for discrimination. I wasn’t discriminated against, I was a mediocre reporter. And sometimes drunk women aren’t raped; they just make stupid choices—and to say we deserve special treatment when we’re drunk because we’re women, to say we need to be looked after, I find offensive.”
Kathy came back with our beers and we sipped in silence until they were drained.
“Geez Preaker, okay, I give.”
“Okay.”
“You do see a pattern, though, right? In the attacks on females. In the attitude about the attacks.”
“Except neither the Nash or Keene girl was sexually molested. Right?”
“I think in our guy’s mind, the teeth pulling is equivalent to rape. That’s all about power—it’s invasive, it requires a goodly amount of force, and as each tooth comes out…release.”
“Is this on record?”
“If I see this in your paper, if I see even a hint of this conversation under your byline, you and I will never speak again. And that would be really bad, because I like talking to you. Cheers.” Richard clicked his empty against mine. I stayed silent.
“In fact, let me take you out,” he said. “Just for fun. No shop talk. My brain desperately needs a night off from this stuff. We could do something appropriately small town.”
I raised my eyebrows.
“Pull taffy? Catch a greased pig?” he began ticking activities on his fingers. “Make our own ice cream? Ride down Main Street in one of those little Shriners cars? Oh, is there a quaint county fair anywhere near here—I could perform a feat of strength for you.”